has Lidar been good?

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jeffield

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« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2019, 01:14:55 PM »
I am looking forward to crooked stick. Is that the south carolina one?
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« Reply #16 on: October 12, 2019, 01:44:18 PM »
So there are no variation in real courses?! They are all the same?

Dan, you would not recognize if a course was made with lidar data unless your told. It would go something like this:
Dan: "This is a great course!"
Someone whispers: "Dan, it is made with lidar data"
Dan: "Ofcourse I could see that with all those lumps and bumps, I hate it!".

I can tell a LiDAR/OSM  course within a few holes.... most on the very first.  An original course done well with LiDAR data only has the possibility of being decent.......  it I haven’t played one.  Like I said previously in this thread.... I’m not really a fan of RCRs in general
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« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2019, 02:45:03 PM »
I am looking forward to crooked stick. Is that the south carolina one?

No, Crooked Stick Golf Club is in Carmel Indiana, a high end suburb of Indianapolis.  It has hosted the 2009 USGA Senior Open and was where John Daly won the PGA Championship as a last minute substitute.  It is in the regular course rotation for the BMW Championship.

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« Reply #18 on: October 12, 2019, 03:32:17 PM »

No, Crooked Stick Golf Club is in Carmel Indiana, a high end suburb of Indianapolis.  It has hosted the 2009 USGA Senior Open and was where John Daly won the PGA Championship as a last minute substitute.  It is in the regular course rotation for the BMW Championship.

If my memory serves me right, I believe that the “infamous” ADX321 is a member of this course and a personal friend of Pete Dye.     ;)


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« Reply #19 on: October 12, 2019, 03:37:52 PM »
ADX  ?       .... never heard of him

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« Reply #20 on: October 12, 2019, 06:22:38 PM »
He hasn’t been around for quite some time.....  I don’t recall him posting about anything about TGC2019.
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« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2019, 12:25:38 AM »
I am looking forward to crooked stick. Is that the south carolina one?

No, Crooked Stick Golf Club is in Carmel Indiana, a high end suburb of Indianapolis.  It has hosted the 2009 USGA Senior Open and was where John Daly won the PGA Championship as a last minute substitute.  It is in the regular course rotation for the BMW Championship.

Hey, you stole that logo
 I remember that night but ill still play your course anyway.  :)
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« Reply #22 on: October 13, 2019, 01:37:47 AM »
I haven't been limited by plant meter on any lidar courses.  But you have to be smart with the masking. 

I think there is probably just some overall burnout going on.  I'm pretty exhausted with how manual certain design tasks are. 

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« Reply #23 on: October 13, 2019, 08:37:33 AM »
I spend my time using the simulator version of TGC. Playing RCR’s is amazing. The lidar tool allows you to get super accurate RCR’s and cuts down design time but a whole bunch. My home course Mississaugua took 150 hours between TGC and TGC19. Castle Pines took under 20.   Anyone who’s ever been on this site knows that Dan hates lidar but from my perspective its a huge game changer.

I have no doubt whatsoever that Crooked Stick will be better than Castle Pines. My point wasn’t saying that I’m a super star but that Lidar cuts the work down tremendously.  Castle Pines is a fun playable version.  Crooked Stick will be fantastic I’m sure

You can make a quality course in 20 hrs?  Lidar must do just about everything for the designer/ person creating the course.  After this initial 20 hrs is there plant meter leftover to allow for more hole detail?   Its good to have accuracy/ i dont know how to use it but it has to allow for surrounding aesthetics if its going to be great.

mhunt must be a superstar Lidar designer!  Twenty hours!  I already have nearly 100 hours into my RCR of Crooked Stick GC, and am close to but not finished.
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