Apology to HB

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PawPawSkiwee

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« Reply #30 on: July 24, 2015, 09:15:04 PM »
Youre probably playing better because its much easier to hit it straight now.

Funny, this is not my experience at all.  I am finding that I hit everything right even when I purposely try to hit it left.  Everything goes right.

I will try a little bit longer but trying to find the sweet spot is a bit too random.  With a golf club, I know where the sweet spot is.  I may not hit it every time but I know where it is.  With this change, I have no idea where it is and, to me, that is not realistic.

heshwuan

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« Reply #31 on: July 25, 2015, 12:28:50 AM »
Hi everyone

Thank you all or your continued support and patience, we hope you all continue to post helpful and constructive criticism and look forward to seeing your personal experiences while enjoying the game.

Cheers

I love how the HB guys only acknowledge it when they get positive feedback. I too can get 100% swings, but I have to swing like happy gilmore to do it. There is no upside to this new swing mechanic.

Im on the pga tour on TGCTours, and you need to guarantee a 100% swing to have any chance. THrowing in a 97% shot can be the difference between being in the bunker or by the flag. I can get 100% by stick slamming.

All the morons who say 'just practice, you'll get it' can go to heck, I have the technique to get 100% and what is required is slamming the stick. Maybe others have a different definition of what constitutes slamming the stick, but to me, it is slamming it.

THe swing mechanic is broken, at least for some PS4 users.

If it is not broken, can anyone explain the videos of people getting 100% swings on pc with a ps4 controller, then on ps4 using the same swing and same controller, they get 95% swings? 

ADMIN?  PLEASE explain this?  'we are doing it wrong' is not an adequate explanation.

The only game in the world with updates that make a game worse.

Can anyone tell me when they're going to use this new found granular swing? lob wedges under 20 yards maybe, and the very occasional 240 yard par 3. But even that will most likely just be a 5w.

Its a nonsense.

EXPLAIN THE PS4 95% but PC 100% with same player, same swing, same pad please?  OBVIOUSLY its not working correctly.

Great business model, annoy loads of your loyal customers just at the same time as your competitor releases a game!


The issue was though, that you were getting 100 no matter how you swung when the frame rate was low. Then with the same swing, depending on frame rate you'd get 94% out of the blue. Making it massively inconsistent.
Now the same swing and same tempo will get you the same result every time, so it is consistent.
Being a PGA player, your mental skills as well as your swing skills should be above the rest, this means that when taking a shot this extra variable should help you rather than hinder you

That response still doesnt explain what he asked..

Most players understand the whole framerate/swing thing by now, Im sure. And the theory behind the change is rock solid and makes total sense; I agree with it.
But the frustration comes from the fact that the same swing on XB1 and PC get drastically different results on PS4, in their current builds. You couldnt have intended it to be this way, right?

edit: I've since read you are looking into it, so here's hoping it can all get worked out.
« Last Edit: July 25, 2015, 01:11:55 AM by heshwuan »

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« Reply #32 on: July 25, 2015, 01:32:25 AM »

I'm getting 100% shots more consistent now by pausing a bit longer at the top of the backswing and don't have to slam forward as hard.

The thing that is concerning is the amount of dead straight shots I'm getting. I used to have to look at the controller to get near straight, now after the update I'm looking at the TV for the top of the backswing and I cant seem to hit a bad shot. I may have used to get 1 shot per round that looked straight, had 5 in 4 holes now.


HB has commented on this - sounds like a bug and will be fixed.

Could you possibly puts a link to where they commented on this please?


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http://www.hb-studios.com/forum/index.php?topic=11888.msg132701#msg132701

When this gets fixed I can see the complaining increase by those having to "slam" the stick forward on the PS4 resulting in more off target shots.  ;)


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« Reply #33 on: July 25, 2015, 07:25:57 AM »
I too got a little over excited by this change also, just not into doing things differently when things seem smooth, but have adjusted in less than 15 minutes and get my 100% now, just sometimes that throws me to the right or left, but will smooth that out and now can actually see where the softer*92% type of swing can actually help in finesse situations.  So in my eyes, all is good again. Now can start design on course number 82. I think some of my courses look and play as good as you guys'.  Search Pike's . I know a couple of them deserve a look at or rated by your team.
 
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« Reply #34 on: July 25, 2015, 03:10:14 PM »
Hi guys,

In the last 24 hours i've aired my concerns and frustration over the new swing "method".  I even contemplated going out and getting the Rory game BUT -

I pulled my head out of my arse and gave it a proper go.  Sure I don't hit 100% every time but when do I ever do that on the course anyway.  The realism and shot making has just got 100% better with this change.  Do I swing harder and go for 100% or do I club up and take a slower smoother swing.  I'm in the middle of playing the elite season and prior to the change in event 2 (can't remember the course or event name) i shot 5 under in the first round.  After the change and a few hours of practice rounds I played the second round and shot 10 under.

I realised i'd just been going through the motions previously.  Pick a club, look at the wind, swing & hit 100%.  Now that I am thinking more about my swing and the shot I need to hit, i'm playing better.

Loved the game since launch and love it even more now (let's ignore yesterdays rants about you guys breaking the game)

Humans don't like change but if you take the time and embrace this one, you'll love it.  One cavaet though is that I think people who play "real golf" will get the most out of the change.  Those looking for a video game experience may still find it frustrating.

Well done guys for having the balls to stick with your vision.  A great golf sim just got better and sorry again about my initial negative comments.  Keep up the great work.

Good on ya for manning up and posting this apology thread.  Says a lot about you as an offline dude.

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« Reply #35 on: July 25, 2015, 03:39:41 PM »
Make sure your PS4 has the latest system update, version 2.57,  all I know is after it was installed on my system,  my swing sensitivity improved. Still not perfect, but a lot better. . . Don't know if HB did anything on there end. . .
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« Reply #36 on: July 25, 2015, 03:52:55 PM »
Make sure your PS4 has the latest system update, version 2.57,  all I know is after it was installed on my system,  my swing sensitivity improved. Still not perfect, but a lot better. . . Don't know if HB did anything on there end. . .
Yeah, I just finished my first round since after the Sony update and had all 100% shots except for my first tee shot. Before that, I had a lot in the high 90's.

Probably just because I concentrated on quickening my tempo though, and not because of the update!

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« Reply #37 on: July 25, 2015, 04:10:07 PM »
Make sure your PS4 has the latest system update, version 2.57,  all I know is after it was installed on my system,  my swing sensitivity improved. Still not perfect, but a lot better. . . Don't know if HB did anything on there end. . .
Yeah, I just finished my first round since after the Sony update and had all 100% shots except for my first tee shot. Before that, I had a lot in the high 90's.

Probably just because I concentrated on quickening my tempo though, and not because of the update!

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Very interesting, we keep our consoles up to date all of the time. So this maybe why we're not seeing issues.

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« Reply #38 on: July 25, 2015, 04:41:11 PM »
Make sure your PS4 has the latest system update, version 2.57,  all I know is after it was installed on my system,  my swing sensitivity improved. Still not perfect, but a lot better. . . Don't know if HB did anything on there end. . .
Yeah, I just finished my first round since after the Sony update and had all 100% shots except for my first tee shot. Before that, I had a lot in the high 90's.

Probably just because I concentrated on quickening my tempo though, and not because of the update!

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Very interesting, we keep our consoles up to date all of the time. So this maybe why we're not seeing issues.

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Not sure it's that, I did the Sony update before I did the TGC update.


Having said that, I did have far better results this morning, but it's still a lot easier to hit 100% on Xbone so don't let Devon anywhere near that system!

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« Reply #39 on: July 26, 2015, 02:09:51 AM »
Also had the Sony update before HB's.  I still don't understand the change. Let's fix the 94-96% issue with a 88-92 issue. If the old swing was guarenteeing 100% for us " lazy" incorrect swingers, why were we getting 94% ?  I just played a round and got 100% on every shot except one. Problem is not getting 100% . I get it with your swing which I don't like at all.
   
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