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Apache Creek vs Pine Park Lodge

Apache Creek
27 (73%)
Pine Park Lodge
10 (27%)

Total Members Voted: 36

HB Design Tournament Round 3 - Apache Creek vs Pine Park Lodge

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HB_KeithC

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« on: November 02, 2015, 08:24:59 PM »
Drivert =  Apache Creek (9 Holes)

Nickweis = Pine Park Lodge (9 hole)
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drivert

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« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2015, 08:35:19 PM »
Good luck Nick


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« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2015, 08:58:54 PM »
My Courses:
Red Rock National
The Links @ Inverness Point
Pine Park Lodge (9 hole)
Helena Island Estate (9 hole)
Grizzly Paw Golf Club
Killarney Golf and Country Club
The Great Northern G&CC
The Links of Isolation Island
Coyote Canyon (Original Members, Tour and now 2016 multi)
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« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2015, 02:51:45 AM »
Pine park lodge 9 hole is now published
My Courses:
Red Rock National
The Links @ Inverness Point
Pine Park Lodge (9 hole)
Helena Island Estate (9 hole)
Grizzly Paw Golf Club
Killarney Golf and Country Club
The Great Northern G&CC
The Links of Isolation Island
Coyote Canyon (Original Members, Tour and now 2016 multi)
Steam/PSN: Nickweis12

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« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2015, 12:08:27 PM »
Pine park lodge 9 hole is now published

Well, we're up to the best of the best. Nice course. Challenging, fair, well laid out.  I think this is going to be a very close vote. Not deciding mine until I see both but I have no doubt it's going to be a tough one for me.

Question: What time of day did you set this at? Dawn or dusk possibly? Or just overcast?

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« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2015, 01:52:02 PM »
The sun isn't set to low, about 3/4 on the meter.  The overcast setting makes a big difference on this theme.  I feel like it helps the greens not look so bright.
My Courses:
Red Rock National
The Links @ Inverness Point
Pine Park Lodge (9 hole)
Helena Island Estate (9 hole)
Grizzly Paw Golf Club
Killarney Golf and Country Club
The Great Northern G&CC
The Links of Isolation Island
Coyote Canyon (Original Members, Tour and now 2016 multi)
Steam/PSN: Nickweis12

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« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2015, 10:20:45 PM »
Apache Creek (9 Holes) is published


wagtunes

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« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2015, 11:27:04 PM »
Apache Creek (9 Holes) is published

Just gave this one a spin. Had to battle some nasty winds but managed 2 under.

Personally, I like the front 3 a little more than the back 3 but that front 3 is like my 3 favorite holes of this whole competition so you're still up there. This is going to be a very close vote I think. I wouldn't be surprised if it came down to a difference of 1 or 2.

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« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2015, 04:19:19 PM »
So at this point these courses are so close in terms of class that you really need a scorecard to jot down little details that sway your vote..And this was very interesting for me because at holes 1-6 I was pretty firmly for Apache Creek...However I thought NickWeis did a little better job with the new holes 7-9...But if we are judging the course as a whole I will have to give the edge to Drivert & Apache Creek..

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« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2015, 08:27:59 PM »
We have our club pro out kissing babies to drum up some much needed votes  ;D


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« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2015, 07:07:26 AM »
2 good courses where both put a lot of effort into. Well done both of you.
Hard to find a clear voting for either of them. Both courses need urgently to be completed.
The course layout and flow of the holes is well done and straight forwared on both course. Forming of the holes, by using 1st cut and landscape to define the general look of the hole, Pine Park Lodge slightly gets its nose ahead. Leading (or missleading) the player thru the forming and modeling of the fairways, Apache Creek goes ahead. Using obstacles (bunker, water, etc.) as "warning lights" towards the player, both course get lost in what i would call "overbunkering", thus leading the players into simply ignoring them. Greencomplexes, size, slopeing are well done on both course and match the hole layouts. Integrating all levels of players, from challenging the crack to allow the casual a success, is probably one of the hardest things to do in course design. Both courses are about equal in there balance.
So my vote goes to ..... ? Wherever it went.

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« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2015, 11:14:01 AM »
Very, very impressed with both can't wait to see finished articles, made my vote, was very tough decision sorry one of you has to lose :(

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« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2015, 11:29:40 AM »
two great courses.....one has some teenie tiny flaws which in order to decide a winner you have to look for to make a decision......one is a 10+ while the other is a 10- if that makes sense.....

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« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2015, 10:05:02 AM »
These are two excellent courses.  A really close matchup because the were fairly similar in style IMO but both done so well.  Think I know which way my vote will go... But it's very tight
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University Links (TGCT 2015 Open Championship)

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« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2015, 08:19:18 PM »
Thank you to all that voted and thanks to NickWeiss for building a really awesome course to this point cant wait to play the finished 18


 

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