How can we fix multiplayer?

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KYduckman

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« on: December 28, 2015, 12:11:04 PM »
Thought we could start a thread where we can post our wants as it relates to the new multiplayer format.

1.  Simultaneous Four ball- it takes way to long to play turn based play for this event.
2.  Add Alternate Shot to the multiplayer experience.

What are some of your thoughts to make the multiplayer experience better?

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« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2015, 03:20:39 PM »
Thought we could start a thread where we can post our wants as it relates to the new multiplayer format.

1.  Simultaneous Four ball- it takes way to long to play turn based play for this event.

I agree that something like simultaneous play needs to be done to speed four ball up.  I would prefer to see an option that allowed each player to go to where their shot landed, begin sizing up their shot and selecting their club, aiming, etc., and then when it is their turn, according to the 'order of play' rules of golf, the game would highlight their name to indicate they're "up" and would then be enabled at that point to execute their shot.  You could see the telemetry of the other players shots from your perspective (where possible) or toggle the overhead map to track them during or after your shot preparation.

I think where this game loses a lot of time in pure turn-based play is it forces you to watch your opponent's shot setup and preparation from  the start.  In real life, you would have gone to where your own ball lies, even if your opponent was away, while they're sizing up, aiming, and playing their shot, while you're sizing up and preparing to play your shot.

Something like I'm suggesting should be an OPTION because I know there are people who don't mind or prefer the pure turn-based experience as it is... I'm just not one of them as it feels a bit phony to me and anytime I see my opponent play their shot, from their swing camera perspective.  It compromises the notion that I'm watching the game play out purely from MY golfer's perspective.

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2.  Add Alternate Shot to the multiplayer experience.

Agreed, but if it's going to be pure turn-based perspective, at least show the action from your golfer's perspective when it's not your shot.  Again, it compromises the player perspective aspect of the game which I find is critical to selling the "you are there" experience.  When I watch other players play their shots from their swing camera perspective, especially the players on other teams in four ball, best ball, or alternalte shot, I feel like I"m in the opposing team's huddle during a football game ???
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« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2015, 03:50:02 PM »
My biggest request in this area is still for scramble and skins modes to be added...both for local multiplayer and online multiplayer.  This, along with more than 4 players in a group.  If the game would enable me to have 5 guys over to play on the simulator where we could create teams of 2 and then play scramble, that would be awesome.  Or pure scramble for the entire group...once that can be done and linked to tournaments, it would be fantastic.  Different groups of guys could team up to play a scramble round and have their score submitted to the tournament.  I expect this is more work than HB will be able to do for March, but I can hope.  :)

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« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2015, 06:19:10 PM »

I think where this game loses a lot of time in pure turn-based play is it forces you to watch your opponent's shot setup and preparation from  the start.  In real life, you would have gone to where your own ball lies, even if your opponent was away, while they're sizing up, aiming, and playing their shot, while you're sizing up and preparing to play your shot.


What happened to the camera dev that was going to add some new views? Watching other players from your ball position would feel great. I still want that reverse angle landing cam too.
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« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2015, 07:21:46 PM »

I think where this game loses a lot of time in pure turn-based play is it forces you to watch your opponent's shot setup and preparation from  the start.  In real life, you would have gone to where your own ball lies, even if your opponent was away, while they're sizing up, aiming, and playing their shot, while you're sizing up and preparing to play your shot.


What happened to the camera dev that was going to add some new views? Watching other players from your ball position would feel great. I still want that reverse angle landing cam too.

You're speaking of Adam Viljakainen.  He hasn't weighed in recently.  The last post I read from him said he was still wanting to get the auto, reverse angle landing camera in the game.  He said his hands were tied and camera changes were behind other items on the priority list at that time.
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« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2015, 07:45:16 PM »

I think where this game loses a lot of time in pure turn-based play is it forces you to watch your opponent's shot setup and preparation from  the start.  In real life, you would have gone to where your own ball lies, even if your opponent was away, while they're sizing up, aiming, and playing their shot, while you're sizing up and preparing to play your shot.


What happened to the camera dev that was going to add some new views? Watching other players from your ball position would feel great. I still want that reverse angle landing cam too.

You're speaking of Adam Viljakainen.  He hasn't weighed in recently.  The last post I read from him said he was still wanting to get the auto, reverse angle landing camera in the game.  He said his hands were tied and camera changes were behind other items on the priority list at that time.

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« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2016, 10:24:43 AM »
I was wondering if HB could give us some insight as to what we can expect in the March update?  Will there be anything for the multiplayer?

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« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2016, 02:18:49 PM »
Being able to play randoms would be the best addition to this game. Also being able to play with hardness settings. So the online match would have what settings you want to play with before it starts. If not then some sort of point system that takes into account what aids you play with. If you play stock vs me and I am playing with no aids then if I beat you I get a lot of points if you beat me I only lose a couple.

One other thing that I always loved in Tiger is when they let us bet fake money. I don't know why but it made it a lot more fun. I think I turned 5000 into 1million one year...
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« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2016, 11:20:57 AM »
I agree although 99.9% of the time I am playing with friends, it would be nice to hit search and find a random to play a match play with or other game modes.

I would like to see alternate shot added.  This is the game mode that we played the most of on Tiger Woods.

I am curious if HB is working on any part of the multiplayer, and if they are looking at adding more game modes.?

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« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2016, 12:22:19 PM »
There not doing much of anything right now if their actions speak for them.   I've mentioned since the update that I can't play match on the ps4 without getting kicked every 1 to 3 holes,  and since that time I have not gotten one suggestion to what I could do.   I'm not the only one suffering on the ps4 I can tell you that.    If all I had was the ps4 version and not the PC I would of been so upset with their customer support in this area because these are the modes I've been looking forward to most.   I guess what I'm saying is since it works on my PC version I'm okay with their delayed response.
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« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2016, 02:18:31 PM »
Agreed johneric8, however they could at least tell us that we are aware of the problem and are looking into it.  Or this is what we are working on to try and get into the next update. 

At this point, we still don't have a multiplayer game imo. SAD, this game could be so much more with just a little more effort for multiplayer and a little less somewhere else, like 75 different themes.

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« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2016, 02:48:16 PM »
Agreed johneric8, however they could at least tell us that we are aware of the problem and are looking into it.  Or this is what we are working on to try and get into the next update. 

At this point, we still don't have a multiplayer game imo. SAD, this game could be so much more with just a little more effort for multiplayer and a little less somewhere else, like 75 different themes.

Much agreed,   the guys that only play on the ps4 who are having issues have not yet gotten to enjoy match or 4 ball yet and I can tell you the modes add a ton to the game just from playing on the PC.    Hopefully we get some kernels of info from the team here in the coming week...
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« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2016, 02:50:44 PM »
Agreed johneric8, however they could at least tell us that we are aware of the problem and are looking into it.  Or this is what we are working on to try and get into the next update. 

At this point, we still don't have a multiplayer game imo. SAD, this game could be so much more with just a little more effort for multiplayer and a little less somewhere else, like 75 different themes.

The match play/fourball issue is being looked at.  Sorry, sometimes lose track of all the threads talking about the same thing.   :)

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« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2016, 12:08:52 PM »
Thank you for replying.  Right now multiplayer SUCKS for PS4.  Same as it did since before the update to add it.
Please allow simultaneous play in match play, and also add alternate shot!

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« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2016, 02:58:22 PM »
I would like to see a MP lobby with Alternate Shot. Give me that and tempo based swing & I am in heaven.

 

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