Post V 0.7 changes in power report

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stonecomet

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« on: May 30, 2014, 04:06:23 PM »
I used to get 94%-95% power on my normal swing and get 100% maybe 10% of the time.

It felt like getting 100% was when my timing between upswing and downswing was spot on but a really tough zone to consistently hit, which I don't really mind as I consider 100% an overhit. Especially since we don't get anything above 100% like say 110% max. Beside the point really. I would love my smooth strong fast but not quick swings to get 96%-97%.

With the new 0.7 build I am getting 90%-91% on my good swings and still hitting 100% about 10% of the time. I know with console release looming you are focused on the big 2 controllers (xbox and ps). You might want to start a new. BUILD 0.7 and POWER reporting thread. That is all I am doing here. reporting the new swing power experience to you the developers.

Logitech F310 Gamepad (latest windows driver, default setting, no additional controller software)
Windows 7 (64bit)
i7 2600 quad core 3.4 gHZ
8G RAM DDR3
GeForce GTX 660 ti
Game Settings: Graphics on HIgh, No Vsync

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Doyley

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« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2014, 04:45:20 PM »
I have the same controller and find changing the graphic quality and window sizes affect the % range.  Don't know if you've experimented with those yet.  For me the sweet spot was 1600x900 window on high settings - I get low 20's FPS but a high percentage of 100% hits.

For me, changing from high to medium to low settings decrease my average hitting %'s from 100 to 94 to 91 respectively.  So I just had to find a window size that ran high settings well enough to be able to have my 100% hits.

Acid Flashback

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« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2014, 06:45:34 PM »
Im running high detail 1900x1200 and gameplay is now smooth.  Im still getting about 91-94% power especially off the tee with woods, to get 100% i have to swing forward fast (my thumb stick is pretty loose after 3 odd years of abuse).  I find my irons easier to hit 100%.  Im using a wired x-box controller, windows 7 64bit still.
« Last Edit: May 30, 2014, 06:47:09 PM by Acid Flashback »

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« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2014, 07:42:50 PM »

I would get 94-95% a lot and 100% maybe 1/4 of the time in v0.60.

I am now getting 100% on demand in v0.70.

I'm now getting 45-50fps on High, 1920x1080.

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KenR

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« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2014, 08:22:31 PM »
After the .7 update, which may or may not include some changes in the controller swing function, I am happy to report that I'm hitting straighter shots and the 100 % mark at will with a little faster move forward without having to slam the stick forward. I have made a change in technique in "swinging" the stick that is contributing to my new success, but I think some improvements in tempo and power may have been made by the devs. Only they can answer that, but from my perspective the swing power appears to have been tweaked for the better.
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dci_jones

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« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2014, 08:29:47 PM »
I got 100% power maybe 2 swings out of 10 and only because I smashed the stick forward very fast and hard which by the way went wildly offline, The rest of the time I got 92/95%. I really see no sense whatsoever in making it so hard to get 100% power I never had to try very hard at all to get it before V.5.
So I play someone who has no problem hitting 100% bottom line I'm going to lose, What's the point of playing ?
Can you for the love of god return the swing to the way it was before you messed it all up in V.5
I recall maybe 2 people posting they had problems hitting 100% before you patched V.5 you just made it worse
« Last Edit: May 30, 2014, 08:33:13 PM by dci_jones »

HB_LorinB

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« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2014, 09:31:59 PM »
We did make a couple of tweaks to this in this build (though it is not in the notes).  We also noticed that many people we not fully completing the backswing when we looked at the telemetry.  Several people were stopping just shy of a complete backswing.  We are actually going to put together a video on the swing very soon.

I am not saying we don't need to do more calibration, I am just pointing out that we saw a lot more of the incomplete backswing than we expected.

Doyley

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« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2014, 09:34:59 PM »
That's good to hear about incomplete backswing - I know that when I don't get 100% I can tell I did something wrong.  Hopefully the others that are properly swinging and still not able to get full power will get the fix they're looking for soon.

Acid Flashback

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« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2014, 11:34:48 PM »
Id like to say that Im happy not hitting 100%.  But I would like to consistently hit 95%, which I am nearly, so well done.

dci_jones

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« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2014, 08:27:55 AM »
Id like to say that Im happy not hitting 100%.  But I would like to consistently hit 95%, which I am nearly, so well done.

Ok so you're happy that others can hit 100% with ease but you can't then I'm pleased for you, You paid you're money you play how you like. What happens when you setup you're shot for 95% and you hit 100%. Myself, I can't see the logic in being happy that I'm playing a totally different game to others.
Even if I knew I was going to hit 95% ten times out of ten I still wouldn't be happy that other players get 100% and I can't.

p2035

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« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2014, 08:49:19 AM »
stonecomet and dci_jones:

Just curious, do you use a 2 fingered swing or a pure thumb swing? 

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dci_jones

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« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2014, 08:59:51 AM »
stonecomet and dci_jones:

Just curious, do you use a 2 fingered swing or a pure thumb swing?

Thumb and finger

p2035

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« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2014, 09:19:56 AM »
stonecomet and dci_jones:

Just curious, do you use a 2 fingered swing or a pure thumb swing?

Thumb and finger


That's what I thought.

I also use a 2 fingered swing and certain controllers (like the Logitech) give me major trouble. 

The 2 fingered swing causes a slightly longer range of motion, and when coupled with a less sensitive controller it can cause slower swings (especially when a game like TGC 'tunes' the swing to require faster motion).

If anybody uses "Kontrol Freeks" that will also cause a longer range of motion, slowing down the swing time slightly.

I know it's not fair but if you try a more sensitive controller you should be able to get your swing back. 

I get 100% power using a PS3 controller and a Razer Sabertooth controller (using a 2 fingered swing).  The Sabertooth does have onboard (button) sensitivity adjustment, but I can get 100% power using the stock settings with no adjustments.   

I can get 100% power both with and without Kontrol Freeks, using both my PS3 and Razer Sabertooth controllers.

I bought my Sabertooth 6 months ago, I just recently took it out of the closet (I didn't buy it just for TGC).

But I can't get 100% with a Logitech controller.
« Last Edit: May 31, 2014, 09:32:19 AM by p2035 »

stonecomet

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« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2014, 10:32:50 PM »
@HB Lorin

I hear you, thanks. I was somewhat guilty of this one. I am getting much higher rates of 100% even acceptable levels of 100% because I figured out that a longer pause on my back swing gave me a much higher rate of hitting 100%. I am getting 100% off the tee about 95% of the time which for me is perfect and I'm sure I can bring this up into the high 90's now that I know the dynamic. Off the fairway the rate drops a bit but that's to be expected. Same for all other lies. The issue now seems to be that my near perfect swings which might be slightly off tempo and/or downswing force are giving me a very consistent 90%-91%. This use to be 94%-95% pre V.07. So now it's either 100% or 90% to 91% with very little variation. The commentator is even saying "nice contact" and "great swing" when I'm hitting the ball 90%-91%. My guess is these strikes should be between 96%-97%. I don't really know what the development team is looking for with these very close to 100% strikes. Hope this all helps. By the way I hit a 3 Iron out of the deep rough and got 100% and the lie penalty was seemed to be working well as the actual distance of the shot was what I would consider spot on. Hope this helps.

Thanks as always!
« Last Edit: June 02, 2014, 09:39:21 AM by stonecomet »

stonecomet

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« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2014, 10:39:01 PM »
stonecomet and dci_jones:

Just curious, do you use a 2 fingered swing or a pure thumb swing?

I use 2 fingers for my swings. I figured out most of the swing mechanic for better percentage of 100% swings. For me it was a longer pause at the top of the swing. I don't have to over slam the stick froward but it does require a smooth and fast downswing. See my post before this one for further information if you feel like it.

 

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