Deleted Content of a famous Course/other names

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« on: August 19, 2019, 04:56:10 PM »
I know this is a long shot but i wonder if HB can comment on why a famous course all content but deleted from the server on TGC 2019.
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« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2019, 05:00:52 PM »
Yeah what's going on here....
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« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2019, 05:05:39 PM »
I'm not sure I know what you mean by "Deleted Content of a famous course".  Is it a PGA TOUR licensed course?  Is it a user created course?
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« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2019, 05:08:22 PM »
I'm not sure I know what you mean by "Deleted Content of a famous course".  Is it a PGA TOUR licensed course?  Is it a user created course?

User created. aka "Masters"

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« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2019, 05:11:56 PM »
talking to Royce he said he can play it from his favorites but not edit it from his published courses. Looks like what they did was blank out the name Augusta with **********************. Whatever is going on here I hope he get's access to it again because he put a crazy amount of time into that course. Insane amount of time.

Has to be someone told Augusta about it and or HB/2K is getting ready to announce something about a new game.

Hopefully he can just change the name and all is right in the world.
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« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2019, 05:17:29 PM »
It seems Royce's file been deleted,Never know anything so heartbreaking as that, without even a message to him.
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« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2019, 05:21:56 PM »
If it were me, that'd be the end of my time in TGC. So much disrespect, deleting an absurd amount of hours into something that helped the game, and community. Sad stuff man, really gut wrenching...

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« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2019, 05:24:03 PM »
I see HB Shaun was on the forums in the last 15 minutes so hopefully he can chime in with something

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« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2019, 05:24:57 PM »
if ANGC noticed and sent a c&d or a DMCA, there's very little HB can do without racking up legal fees.
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« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2019, 05:26:33 PM »
This didn't end with Royce's version... When I went to search for Magnolia National, I came up empty.  Then I went into my favorites and saw that all the letters of "Magnolia" were asterisked out.  I then searched just "Magnolia" using the text search and ANY course that has Magnolia as part of its name has had the Magnolia, asterisked out ???

Indeed it does raise curiosity about whether there might be some licensing deal forthcoming with Augusta National, which AN wants all leads to any facsimile of the course removed from the game?  FWIW, I did play a few holes of ******** National from my favorites just to make sure it was still there and playable. 
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« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2019, 05:28:49 PM »
If that is true then that is really crappy.   I guess Magnolia as well has been removed. They could have at least warned these guys. That is 1000s of hours on those courses.

What is interesting is I am being told in my Society The Masters tournament  The Masters is now blanked out with The ******.

Something is going on.
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« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2019, 05:30:24 PM »
All the marks of DMCA/C&D.

If HB/2K had gotten the rights, they wouldn't need to hide/delete all this stuff.
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« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2019, 05:32:08 PM »
Also another example of poor communication.

Craziness.
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« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2019, 05:48:32 PM »
All the marks of DMCA/C&D.

If HB/2K had gotten the rights, they wouldn't need to hide/delete all this stuff.

I can understand how the DMCA and C&D could stick with "Augusta National", but "Magnolia National", wherein no Augusta National trademarks or names are anywhere to be found??  This is what makes me think it's more a matter of the course being licensed and used in a future edition or DLC for TGC 2019, and they want to remove any course that faithfully depicts Augusta National, whether it's called something else or not.
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« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2019, 05:51:22 PM »
You can't copy the text of a book and just retitle it.

You might be able to win that argument in court too, but you'd still have to go to court. We know HB won't do that.
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