Deleted Content of a famous Course/other names

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« Reply #30 on: August 19, 2019, 07:10:38 PM »
HB had to pay licensing fees to use courses in game.  EA had to pay in the TW series.  That’s business and just the way it is.
 Should HB have to pay Augusta or Magnolia because a user published a course named/copied from a real course?  NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT. 
I’m sure that the got a cease and desist order and pulled the courses/asterisked the names for this reason.

If that's what happened (BTW, there is no "Magnolia National" Golf club to issue a C&D from), I'm sure it wasn't because there was one LiDAR version of Magnolia National (in essence, Augusta National) released... your disdain for LiDAR truly knows no bounds!

No it doesn’t.  BUT....  In this case I was correct with my prediction several months ago when I warned people about this.  When you’re right, you’re right.......  I’m sure that this is just the tip of the iceberg.
I hope that I’m wrong......  but this could just be the beginning.  The Bear has been poked... so to speak.
I’m sticking to my “realistic fantasy” courses. 
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« Reply #31 on: August 19, 2019, 07:13:20 PM »
Here's what it looks like when ANGC comes after you.

https://golf-patents.com/augusta-national-throws-the-book-at-game-maker/

That guy was selling the download file and using ANGC’s logo though.  I’m more curious what the simulator guys were paying for it, lol. 

CLV made a free version named something completely different.
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« Reply #32 on: August 19, 2019, 07:15:12 PM »
Named different but still using their trademarked Amen Corner and Hogan Bridge.
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« Reply #33 on: August 19, 2019, 07:27:38 PM »
Crickets from HB.  Could this spell trouble for other courses named after their real life counter parts? 

I fear Pandora's Box has been opened ...
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« Reply #34 on: August 19, 2019, 07:27:54 PM »
Maybe this is why HB has been quiet on a new game.All their funds are being siphoned off by paying their lawyers :)
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« Reply #35 on: August 19, 2019, 07:45:53 PM »
Well they refuse to fix any and all that still needs attention within the game, so my opinion is yes, they were forced to do what they did.

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« Reply #36 on: August 19, 2019, 07:53:18 PM »
Hey bro you wna run 1? Sure where? How about ******************? Ok set it up!

If they blank out all.the real courses names I think this game could be in trouble.

I guess this is what they were working on.
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« Reply #37 on: August 19, 2019, 07:58:27 PM »
So obviously hb knew this was coming and probably out of their control, why not just give a heads up to whats going down. Especially if the naming of courses could effect designers works. It would save the obvious 7 pages of speculation and tgc internet lawyers to weigh in.

Or maybe they enjoy watching this? Perhaps the trollees have become the trollers....
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« Reply #38 on: August 19, 2019, 08:13:20 PM »
Ouch, this isn't looking good at all. I've got a feeling this is just the beginning.

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« Reply #39 on: August 19, 2019, 08:18:24 PM »
Too bad we can’t go back and edit published courses AND CHANGE THEIR NAMES.

Just a thought........
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« Reply #40 on: August 19, 2019, 08:22:48 PM »
No it doesn’t.  BUT....  In this case I was correct with my prediction several months ago when I warned people about this.  When you’re right, you’re right.......

When you warned people about what:

Recreating real courses and naming them with the real course name?

Recreating real courses using LiDAR and OSM (which you say results in a less authentic rendition of the course topography) and naming it with the real course name?

Recreating real courses, either 100% by manual course architect tools or LiDAR/OSM and calling them a synonym or homonym for the course?

What I'm trying to sort out here is whether you're still trying to attribute any of this to the advent of LiDAR courses?

If you can find a link to where you issued any warning that has relevance to this discussion, I'd like to read it.  I'm not saying you didn't, I just want to see if it's contextually applicable to what we're talking about here.
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« Reply #41 on: August 19, 2019, 08:24:11 PM »
****mandan is the whistle blower!
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« Reply #42 on: August 19, 2019, 08:28:26 PM »
****mandan is the whistle blower!

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« Reply #43 on: August 19, 2019, 08:30:03 PM »
It’s been a few months.... but it was during the “Great LiDAR Controversy” threads.
I just decided to sit back and see what happened........ and it did.
If you make up a completely original course and happen to name it the same name as a real life course.. that’s one thing.  When you deliberately copy one and name it the same name without the owner’s consent,  it’s a form of plagiarism.
You just can’t do it without repercussions.  If you want to hunt around in those old threads.... be my guest, but I did say it and it’s starting to happen just as I said it would.
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« Reply #44 on: August 19, 2019, 08:33:36 PM »
Augusta is not a LIDAR . Just good old American hard work. He spent a ton of time on that. Yes he probably should have not named it that but isn't that on HB? At vet least a warning in game would work? But that time had come and gone. You can't just delete a part of someone's life and not expect some blowback.

No offense dude but I would bet the farm he out 100 times more into that one course then you ever have.

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