Red brush or blue brush?

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Acrilix

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« on: September 04, 2014, 05:03:56 PM »
Am I correct in assuming that red brushes should only be used on unprepared land, and for land with layers such as fairways, bunkers, light rough etc. you should always use only the blue brushes?  ???

by the way, the title of this thread is also a tongue twister!!!  :o
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« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2014, 06:16:24 PM »
I have been using only the blue brushes. If I ever get a fairway that doesn't appear, then I use the red brush and raise god knows what as nothing appears except my hidden fairway. Place the marker on tees before choosing the sculpting brush and it will give you the blue brush. I don't know if this is right or wrong, but it has worked great on a course I am making that I have spent about 80 hours on so far.
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« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2014, 06:18:05 PM »
I don't use red at all. I don't see the point of them any longer. The Blues do the same thing...so why take a chance at having to redo something because the fairway is missing or something? Nope.
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« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2014, 06:48:16 PM »
I've been wondering if the use of red brushes on prepared land is the cause of the ball disappearing underground, and golfers legs sinking into the ground that some people have reported on some courses.  ???
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« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2014, 12:25:11 PM »
Am I correct in assuming that red brushes should only be used on unprepared land, and for land with layers such as fairways, bunkers, light rough etc. you should always use only the blue brushes?  ???

by the way, the title of this thread is also a tongue twister!!!  :o

yea thats not a bad way to approach it although you can use the red height brush if you want.

Under the hood, the shaping of the land has 3 steps that happen.  The lowest layer is the red hills, which is what you have if theres a blank slate in front of you.  Then fairways will even things out so you get a flat-ish fairway/green, think of cutting a path along a side of a hill or a mountain.  The final layer is the blue brushes for height editing, which is applied on top of any fairway/green modifications.

The red brushes are found under Editor Menu > Terrain > Sculpt.   
The blue brushes are found from the Sculpt Land option in the contextual menus when editing surfaces (Editor Menu > Edit Holes)

Heres some images that hopefully show the effects I'm talking about and how the fairway/green will interact with the various hill brushes.  The first is a hill created using the red brush with a fairway running over it, the second is a similar hill created using the blue brush with a fairway running over it.

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« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2014, 12:30:50 PM »
Thanks for explaining that, it was hard to figure out why my red brushes stopped working near holes, but now I know ;-)

I actually only use blue, it's just so much easier because it's more predictable I find, but I might give the red ones a go to just do some basic preparation for a course (before laying out the holes).
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« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2014, 10:55:22 AM »
Yeah, thanks for the explanation HB_Paul.  :)

I didn't have a clue and only used the blue brushes. Now the red ones make sense.
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