2K21's new vsync option for the XBox Gen 4 & 5

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« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2021, 09:10:57 AM »
With the 60hz activated what settings are people using for the rest of the graphics options (depth of field, FXX etc)

On a side and probably a dumb question, is there a way of saving your preferred difficulty setting so you don't have to alter them from 'Open' EVERY time I set up a new online match?

I'm using the same graphics setting I've used all along.

There is no way I know of to save the difficulty settings.I set up a lot of games and I so wish you could save them. We use the same settings for every game and it's a PITA to have to set them every time.
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« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2021, 11:04:24 AM »
With the 60hz activated what settings are people using for the rest of the graphics options (depth of field, FXX etc)

DoF - OFF (increases frame rate 2/3 FPS, and actually looks better, IMO)

Antialiasing - OFF (Series X at 2160p, but TSAA if I'm playing on One X, as it mitigates the shimmering seen at lower frame rates when vsync is set to 60 Hz).  I find that the need for any form of AA is not needed at 2160p in terms of eliminating jaggies, but for whatever reason, it does drastically reduce the shimmering on the One X.  I'd rather lose two or three FPS than have to subject myself to the rampant shimmering I see on the One X at 60 Hz.

Bloom - OFF (don't know that it affects frame rate but the effect is overdone, IMO)

Ambient Occlusion (SSAO) - ON, it helps with shadow and shading quality in my experience without any measurable effect on the PC version, so I doubt it's a performance hit on the Series X.

On a side and probably a dumb question, is there a way of saving your preferred difficulty setting so you don't have to alter them from 'Open' EVERY time I set up a new online match?

I haven't found one, but I wish there was.

BTW, I left you a PM in the 2K forum.  You were wondering in the thread about the 60 FPS, as to why I had responded in it yet.  I explained to you in my PM why I haven't  ;)
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« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2021, 03:54:29 PM »
I'm going to be proactive here and try to ask HB Studios for a little help in picking out my next HDTV.  HB Studios, can you tell me if there is perhaps an additional vsync option of "None" coming in a future update for the XBox Series X/S version of PGA TOUR 2K21?

If so, I'll go ahead and order a TCL 55R635 (VRR capable) HDTV, so I can be ready for the variable refresh rate goodness such an option would render with this game!  I'll advise Best Buy to give you a 5% commission on the sale if you do so.  ;D
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« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2021, 05:28:28 PM »
Keep going to the well JC           ;D

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« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2021, 11:39:41 AM »
Keep going to the well JC           ;D

 ;D  Why not, the worse they can say is "NO"... well actually, the worse they can say is nothing, which is what will likely be the case.  If such an option does come, it probably wouldn't come until it could be bundled with PGA TOUR 2K21 Clubhouse Pass Season 3, based on what HB_CraigC said about how they had to hold off on the 60 Hz vsync change until Season Pass 2 was released.
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« Reply #20 on: March 19, 2021, 04:56:16 PM »
Keep going to the well JC           ;D

 ;D  Why not, the worse they can say is "NO"... well actually, the worse they can say is nothing, which is what will likely be the case.  If such an option does come, it probably wouldn't come until it could be bundled with PGA TOUR 2K21 Clubhouse Pass Season 3, based on what HB_CraigC said about how they had to hold off on the 60 Hz vsync change until Season Pass 2 was released.

I would be happy to pay a premium on this game for Next-Gen graphics bundled into series 3 DLC 👍🏻

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« Reply #21 on: March 20, 2021, 10:17:09 AM »
Keep going to the well JC           ;D

 ;D  Why not, the worse they can say is "NO"... well actually, the worse they can say is nothing, which is what will likely be the case.  If such an option does come, it probably wouldn't come until it could be bundled with PGA TOUR 2K21 Clubhouse Pass Season 3, based on what HB_CraigC said about how they had to hold off on the 60 Hz vsync change until Season Pass 2 was released.

I applaud your perseverance ... if you didn't beat the hell out of that drum, we may have never got 60hz for consoles.
With the lack of initial responses I would have thrown in the towel a long time before ... so kudos.

I think correspondence will equate to nil in future iterations and I'm sure we will be cut adrift from this forum.
The 2K forum is a wasteland and the only person replying there is the moderator, who's job is, to pour cold water over the posters .
He knows no more than we do and as for the bug reporting process ... that's a shambles ... we are dealing with auto bots there .


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« Reply #22 on: March 20, 2021, 12:25:34 PM »
Be a shame if this forum is no more but I'm surprised it has lasted this long considering a lot of top games don't have forums anymore. I have held off from twitter for this long but it might be the only way in the future. I could deal with twitter but facebook is never going to happen.

So today is my final round for my 4 letter word society at Bethpage and I am 3 under through 3 rounds. Which is pretty good for me on a very tough course. There is no way without 60hz I could be under par after 3 rounds in my society . Hopefully I can pull it off and get my second win.

Again thanks to JC and HB this 60hz has made the game so much better.
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« Reply #23 on: March 20, 2021, 12:53:22 PM »
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I applaud your perseverance ... if you didn't beat the hell out of that drum, we may have never got 60hz for consoles.

I'll echo that sentiment! Hat's off to ya JC! You ever wear the skin out on that drum just holler, we'll all pitch in on a shiny new one!

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I think correspondence will equate to nil in future iterations and I'm sure we will be cut adrift from this forum. The 2K forum is a wasteland and the only person replying there is the moderator, who's job is, to pour cold water over the posters .
He knows no more than we do and as for the bug reporting process ... that's a shambles ... we are dealing with auto bots there .

Unfortunately I think you may be right but with the 'big change' I'll hold out hope that HB doesn't abandon the board here for the sake of all of us in particular who don't deal with the social media outlets or the debacle known as the 2K forum!

I know there are still some out there that have tried to create an account here to join in on the discussions & have been waiting for some months for the 'approval' so it's pretty obvious this place is still very viable for all things related to the game. So call it a plea if you will but please keep this place up & running HB!



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So today is my final round for my 4 letter word society at Bethpage and I am 3 under through 3 rounds. Which is pretty good for me on a very tough course. There is no way without 60hz I could be under par after 3 rounds in my society . Hopefully I can pull it off and get my second win.

Pullin' for ya pard! And without a doubt the game plays so much better at 60hz, at least on the Series X. I'm hoping HB has taken note of the occasional 'frame freeze' issue, I know it's been mentioned somewhere on the board here. It's not often & corrects itself in a matter of seconds but it'd be nice to have it ironed out!

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« Reply #24 on: March 20, 2021, 01:47:20 PM »
Scratch that Craig came back from golf rehab and posted a score I don't think I can reach. Bastard!

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« Reply #25 on: March 20, 2021, 06:15:29 PM »
As much good 60hz now does on the Xbox, unfortunately it does now create a bit of a divide on the same platform. Those that can use 60hz with no issues (mainly XSX and a few on the Xbox One X who are OK with the graphical glitches and fan overload) are clearly stating tempo is easier and as a result are scoring better. Those who cannot use the mode are left behind in competitive play now I feel. I am 1 who is sticking with 30hz as the graphical glitches on 60hz give me a headache and the fan going wild worries me even though I agree that the game plays better and I also get better tenpo using that mode. Kind of feels like a PS4 Vs Xbox on the Xbox platform!

Thing is, I agree 60hz makes the game better in terms of graphics and getting rid of the input delay 30hz gives but as tempo is easier to handle in 60hz, I feel it takes some of the difficulty that I love away and plays easier. Maybe as easy as it is on PS4 but have not played on PS4 so cannot confirm. Maybe it's just the effect of getting used to the input lag and hard to hit tempo (at times) on 30hz and so of course 60hz would seem easier but turns me off it a bit.

It's an unfortunate downside to such a good implementation but probably something that cannot be avoided I guess. Hopefully as time goes by and people upgrade systems, 60hz would be the default for future versions of the game and so there will not be this disparity on the same platform.



Scratch that Craig came back from golf rehab and posted a score I don't think I can reach. Bastard!

Haha yeah I saw. Unfortunate but I'm sure you'll close the gap now a little.

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« Reply #26 on: March 20, 2021, 09:03:56 PM »
Keep going to the well JC           ;D

 ;D  Why not, the worse they can say is "NO"... well actually, the worse they can say is nothing, which is what will likely be the case.  If such an option does come, it probably wouldn't come until it could be bundled with PGA TOUR 2K21 Clubhouse Pass Season 3, based on what HB_CraigC said about how they had to hold off on the 60 Hz vsync change until Season Pass 2 was released.
Normally when you turn on VRR, vsync won't kick in unless you are hitting FPS higher than your display's refresh rate.

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« Reply #27 on: March 20, 2021, 09:09:57 PM »
As much good 60hz now does on the Xbox, unfortunately it does now create a bit of a divide on the same platform. Those that can use 60hz with no issues (mainly XSX and a few on the Xbox One X who are OK with the graphical glitches and fan overload) are clearly stating tempo is easier and as a result are scoring better. Those who cannot use the mode are left behind in competitive play now I feel. I am 1 who is sticking with 30hz as the graphical glitches on 60hz give me a headache and the fan going wild worries me even though I agree that the game plays better and I also get better tenpo using that mode. Kind of feels like a PS4 Vs Xbox on the Xbox platform!

Thing is, I agree 60hz makes the game better in terms of graphics and getting rid of the input delay 30hz gives but as tempo is easier to handle in 60hz, I feel it takes some of the difficulty that I love away and plays easier. Maybe as easy as it is on PS4 but have not played on PS4 so cannot confirm. Maybe it's just the effect of getting used to the input lag and hard to hit tempo (at times) on 30hz and so of course 60hz would seem easier but turns me off it a bit.

It's an unfortunate downside to such a good implementation but probably something that cannot be avoided I guess. Hopefully as time goes by and people upgrade systems, 60hz would be the default for future versions of the game and so there will not be this disparity on the same platform.



Scratch that Craig came back from golf rehab and posted a score I don't think I can reach. Bastard!

Haha yeah I saw. Unfortunate but I'm sure you'll close the gap now a little.
This is exactly why this game especially should have an fps counter and much more graphics options, there is as big as a divide in Xbox consoles now as there is with different PC's . Why not give the option for every Xbox to have better performance and believe me the more FPS in this game the WAY better the experience.

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« Reply #28 on: March 20, 2021, 10:05:53 PM »
Keep going to the well JC           ;D

 ;D  Why not, the worse they can say is "NO"... well actually, the worse they can say is nothing, which is what will likely be the case.  If such an option does come, it probably wouldn't come until it could be bundled with PGA TOUR 2K21 Clubhouse Pass Season 3, based on what HB_CraigC said about how they had to hold off on the 60 Hz vsync change until Season Pass 2 was released.
Normally when you turn on VRR, vsync won't kick in unless you are hitting FPS higher than your display's refresh rate.

If this is true, then I've grossly misunderstood what I've read about VRR.  It goes back to this article at What HI*FI.com (https://www.whathifi.com/us/advice/vrr-everything-you-need-to-know-about-variable-refresh-rate:

"Both current versions of the Xbox support VRR in a window of 40Hz to 60Hz, but things get really interesting when we look forward to the Xbox Series X. Microsoft's next-gen console supports HDMI 2.1 and will handle VRR in 4K from as low as 30Hz right up to 120Hz - as long as your TV can do the same. Again Xbox Series X will support both FreeSync and HDMI VRR."

That sounds like the Series X can handle any FPS to refresh rate mismatches between 30 and 120 Hz?  What am I missing here?
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« Reply #29 on: March 20, 2021, 10:10:30 PM »
Keep going to the well JC           ;D

 ;D  Why not, the worse they can say is "NO"... well actually, the worse they can say is nothing, which is what will likely be the case.  If such an option does come, it probably wouldn't come until it could be bundled with PGA TOUR 2K21 Clubhouse Pass Season 3, based on what HB_CraigC said about how they had to hold off on the 60 Hz vsync change until Season Pass 2 was released.

I would be happy to pay a premium on this game for Next-Gen graphics bundled into series 3 DLC 👍🏻

I would be happy to pay for a premium download on something like this, but honestly, how many of us are there who would?  I think HB Studios is already on their way to developing the next title in the Series.  I'd be happy to just see a "vsync - none" option added, but that's probably wishful thinking.
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