PGA Tour 2k23

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AndersNM

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« on: August 22, 2022, 12:38:15 PM »
I think a new topic for the new game is in order.

So what can we say about the new game?

The interview with Tiger was cool. "Create something that is more realistic". I think this is very promising. Which is repeated this quote: "As an Executive Director, Woods has helped fine-tune the game’s authenticity and shared valuable insight to develop a fully realized and polished game. 2K is proud to be working in partnership with Woods to create the best sim-style golf game ever created."
So good news for us that want the most realistic game: "Whatever you decide, PGA TOUR 2K23 offers unrivaled authenticity and realism for golfers new to the game or those with a low handicap."

Play as the pros: important for the casual audience, not something I care about. But will other players including caddie be with you on the course in tournaments and rounds? With the caddie in the trailer, this is perhaps one of the feature that is not mentioned? I would be surprised if the caddie is more than just the visuals, but it will be cool to see if there is more to it than that. Caddie is a very important role in professional golf, and no player will do well without a good caddie.
And from the trailer, I think it looks like we can use the modern technology of face-rendering and bring our face to our MyPlayer via cam.
And speaking of MyPlayer. 5 new Skills. "Handful" of archetypes. This is important, and a huge one for me as I have been promoting this. Also a question mark is if there will be a skill-progression in the MyCareer. I would assume for online etc that there is no progression and just a tuning that you can do. And what will now happen to club attributes and balls? It will be interesting to see answers to that. As for balls - it looks like something we can use virtual coins on in the game, and it will be interesting to see how the virtual economy will be in the game.

20 licensed courses is a number that has been put forth, and is still a bit short in numbers. It is unity, and the course designer is more or less the same with a better interface. Personaly I am very okay with that. I do not play golf games for just visuals and for me, all TGC games has looked good. And, I think it is good to be able to port courses. I will update my recreations, but all courses will be ported - and hopefully there has been update so we can delete published courses and re-publish and that search functions like "more from the same designer" is back and better.

3 click - Yes, finaly. And this is the control I will be using.

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« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2022, 12:46:34 PM »
I just stumbled across a brief article and came here to see if anyone was talking about it yet.  Lots more to learn but this is exciting news either way!

I’ve been playing a few rounds here and there and still enjoying the old game.  Looking forward to whatever they release soon!

The only thing I’m kinda surprised about is the addition of 3 Click.  I’m glad they have it for those that want it.  But it’s going to cause QUITE the bickering with competitive play… but hopefully they’ve already thought of that.  Multiple swing options usually divide the player base in one way or another.  But in general, I’m definitely supportive of more options so that folks can play the game how they want to play the game so I think this is a continued step in that direction.
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AndersNM

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« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2022, 12:54:22 PM »
The only thing I’m kinda surprised about is the addition of 3 Click.  I’m glad they have it for those that want it.  But it’s going to cause QUITE the bickering with competitive play… but hopefully they’ve already thought of that.  Multiple swing options usually divide the player base in one way or another.  But in general, I’m definitely supportive of more options so that folks can play the game how they want to play the game so I think this is a continued step in that direction.

As far as single player, there is no issue.
For online I think you need to be able to lock settings in societies - for example only 3 click, or only analog back-and-forth controller - or open.

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« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2022, 01:22:41 PM »
Agree with that. The only problem is that it will divide the online community which means less people available for your chosen swing type.

Age old problem though.
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« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2022, 01:35:29 PM »
Agree with that. The only problem is that it will divide the online community which means less people available for your chosen swing type.

Age old problem though.

I am not concerned that different players want different settings - difficulty, controller. There are more than enough players that I actually don't see that as a problem. It is good that players can find a setting that they like. Be it societies, matchmaking, divot derby etc.
As far as I can see - there will be no cross-platform in this game. But I firmly believe 3-click is the way to go to have competetive cross-platform play which eliminates the differences in controllers etc. So for the TGC Tours site which offer cross-platform play, I think 3 click is the way to go, but it may be too many that prefer the problematic back and forth with those huge differences in platforms and different controllers.

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« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2022, 01:38:01 PM »
Yeah 3C for me can do 1. Boring and takes the feeling of hitting a ball out of the game. Even though the swing stick is not total realism, it's much more immersive than 3C.

The realism, authenticity and SIM stuff spoken about from the Tiger interview does indeed sound promising, so that I am looking forward to.

Hopefully the balls have realistic properties like distance and spin so they are worth the agro of having to buy these (that's how I see it anyways otherwise why add them as additiinal content to the deluxe games?) I assume you can lose them while playing which would be cool. Make sure you take enough in your bag to finish the round! Haha.


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« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2022, 02:03:14 PM »
Yeah 3C for me can do 1. Boring and takes the feeling of hitting a ball out of the game. Even though the swing stick is not total realism, it's much more immersive than 3C.

The realism, authenticity and SIM stuff spoken about from the Tiger interview does indeed sound promising, so that I am looking forward to.

Hopefully the balls have realistic properties like distance and spin so they are worth the agro of having to buy these (that's how I see it anyways otherwise why add them as additiinal content to the deluxe games?) I assume you can lose them while playing which would be cool. Make sure you take enough in your bag to finish the round! Haha.
There was a time when I would only play 3 click in a golf game. Now the thought of watching a power bar for distance control would be a backwards step. The no grid putting in 2K21 is awesome and the only negative is limited camera on downhill putts when marker is turned off. 3 click putting would be a step backwards. Also I really like the long game with master settings, it is challenging and realistic for me. My fingers are crossed that we have a scrambling game that matches the superb putting mechanic.
No problem having a 3 click mechanic just can't see myself using it.
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« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2022, 02:14:57 PM »
Hopefully the balls have realistic properties like distance and spin so they are worth the agro of having to buy these (that's how I see it anyways otherwise why add them as additiinal content to the deluxe games?) I assume you can lose them while playing which would be cool. Make sure you take enough in your bag to finish the round! Haha.

Agree that I hope for realistic properties on balls, but also on clubs. With the new skill-system, there should be no need to have unrealistic properties.

I think I am in the camp that would not want lost balls in a video golf game - at least it has to be customizable. But, hitting balls damage them over time, so professionals change balls during a round - not just because they loose the balls. For professionals that are sponsored, they get the balls free from their sponsor - but for those not sponsored, buying balls is part of the economy. So how virtual coins and how the economy will be in game, is interesting to see.

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« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2022, 02:35:00 PM »
The no grid putting in 2K21 is awesome and the only negative is limited camera on downhill putts when marker is turned off. 3 click putting would be a step backwards.

Agreed. The camera is an easy fix. When marker is off, just default the camera to behind the hole at all times. Have the same issue with big uphill putts because the marker (even though it's invisible) is set to way passed the hole which is where the camera is set. By all means set the marker as they do now so it slows or speeds up your swing but have the camera at the hole like they did it in TGC2019.

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« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2022, 02:49:47 PM »
The no grid putting in 2K21 is awesome and the only negative is limited camera on downhill putts when marker is turned off. 3 click putting would be a step backwards.

Agreed. The camera is an easy fix. When marker is off, just default the camera to behind the hole at all times. Have the same issue with big uphill putts because the marker (even though it's invisible) is set to way passed the hole which is where the camera is set. By all means set the marker as they do now so it slows or speeds up your swing but have the camera at the hole like they did it in TGC2019.
It is strange that playing invisible marker we can actually move it on every shot apart for putting. Like you said Mart just have it set at the hole when marker is turned off.

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« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2022, 02:58:51 PM »
Agree with that. The only problem is that it will divide the online community which means less people available for your chosen swing type.

Age old problem though.

Not any more divided than what already exists between different groups of players ... console vs. PC; Lidar vs sculpted; Real RCR vs. Fantasy ...

People on these gaming forums are never lacking topics to have a cheese and whine fest.
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« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2022, 03:05:19 PM »
New game time again…!!! it’s definitely a good time to release a new edition although from what I’ve seen it’s way overpriced. It has the look of a £30 game & I’m not sure I can pay full price for a game without real links golf & those horrible bunkers again. I hope somewhere in the background 2K are making an actual next generation golf simulation that meets the level of other software on the market.
Obviously we cannot rule out better gameplay in this latest edition but I feel I’d be paying for a patch rather than a real new edition.

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« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2022, 03:07:39 PM »
Agree with that. The only problem is that it will divide the online community which means less people available for your chosen swing type.

Age old problem though.

Not any more divided than what already exists between different groups of players ... console vs. PC; Lidar vs sculpted; Real RCR vs. Fantasy ...

People on these gaming forums are never lacking topics to have a cheese and whine fest.
3016 posts shows you've had a lot of things to say also  ;)

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« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2022, 03:09:10 PM »
over a period of 8 years ... and thanks for following my activity.  LOL  Some people's kids ...
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« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2022, 03:12:03 PM »
New game time again…!!! it’s definitely a good time to release a new edition although from what I’ve seen it’s way overpriced. It has the look of a £30 game & I’m not sure I can pay full price for a game without real links golf & those horrible bunkers again. I hope somewhere in the background 2K are making an actual next generation golf simulation that meets the level of other software on the market.
Obviously we cannot rule out better gameplay in this latest edition but I feel I’d be paying for a patch rather than a real new edition.
If you give it a few months it will probably shoot down in price. I find £50 great value for the 519 hours I put into 2K21. But the 2K23 Tiger edition at £105 for extra digital cosmetic stuff and clubs is laughable really.
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