[darmas64]

comments by HB on Resolution and FPS
http://www.gamepur.com/news/13958-golf-club-xbox-oneps4-aim-1080p60-fps-already-running-1080p-not-quite-60-fp.html

[jcauthen04]

comments by HB on Resolution and FPS
http://www.gamepur.com/news/13958-golf-club-xbox-oneps4-aim-1080p60-fps-already-running-1080p-not-quite-60-fp.html

darmus64, could you or someone else perhaps capture the critical segment of that story and paste it here?  That site is blocked by my webserver at work and I'd love to see what that was about 

[darmas64]

Here it is. The story was posted 11/3/14

Anthony Kyne confirmed to us that The Golf Club development team is aiming for 1080p/60 FPS figure, and added that The Golf Club is already running in 1080p at the moment but not quiet at 60 FPS.

We asked Anthony: "Is the Resolution/FPS figure 1080p/60, at which The Golf Club will run on PS4 and Xbox One? If YES, can you please provide us the details?"

To this he replied: "That's the aim, we're running in 1080p at the moment but not quite at 60fps. I don't think we have an actual hard figure for FPS its more about getting to a point where it feels right. I was reading an article the other day that the human brain can't tell the difference between 50fps and 60fps anyway so as long as it feels right I'll be happy."

[jcauthen04]

Here it is. The story was posted 11/3/14

Anthony Kyne confirmed to us that The Golf Club development team is aiming for 1080p/60 FPS figure, and added that The Golf Club is already running in 1080p at the moment but not quiet at 60 FPS.

We asked Anthony: "Is the Resolution/FPS figure 1080p/60, at which The Golf Club will run on PS4 and Xbox One? If YES, can you please provide us the details?"

To this he replied: "That's the aim, we're running in 1080p at the moment but not quite at 60fps. I don't think we have an actual hard figure for FPS its more about getting to a point where it feels right. I was reading an article the other day that the human brain can't tell the difference between 50fps and 60fps anyway so as long as it feels right I'll be happy."

Thanks for posting this!  It is encouraging to say the least.  I'm in the closed beta and I can promise you that I see the difference between 30 and 40 fps (40 is the highest I've been able to attain on my PC at 1280 x 720 w/low graphics detail selected.  Knowing they'll be pushing 60 FPS at 1080P on the consoles, I'm more stoked about the prospects for the game.  I think a fluid swing interface will likely be the signature trait of this game.  I hope the graphics detail at 1080p is the same as High detail graphics at 1080p on the PC.  That would really seal the deal!

[jcauthen04]

I got to read the whole article at home a few minutes ago and read this confusing, closing statement:

"Its good to hear that The Golf Club is already running at 1080p on both Xbox One and PS4 but as FPS figure is not yet decided expect to see some changes in 1080p resolution in the final build."

What is meany by this?  Why would the fact that an 'FPS figure has not yet been decided' cause one to 'expect to see some changes in 1080p resolution?'  Is the writer suggesting that if they can't hit 60 FPS, they'll be forced to back the resolution down to 720p?  I know one thing from playing the PC version beta, I'd rather have 60 FPS @ 720p than 30 FPS @ 1080p, for this game!  The swing interface needs >35 FPS to breathe the life into this game it needs to ultimately distinguish it from other golf games. 

Is there something that says you can't have a PS4 or XBox One game running at 1080p/45 FPS, or does it have to be 30 or 60 FPS?  If they can make a 720p console version with detail the equivalent of the PC version at 720p with the graphics detail at "high", at 60 FPS, I think it would do fine.  Still, 1080p would put it in the major leagues at 35 + FPS, IMO.

[darmas64]

yes that is a confusing statement from the writer. Agree that FPS is paramount here. That being said, we are talking about a golf game here
(not a fast moving FPS), so it would be a major disappointment if HB couldn't achieve 1080p at 60fps.

[JOE golfer G]

yes that is a confusing statement from the writer. Agree that FPS is paramount here. That being said, we are talking about a golf game here
(not a fast moving FPS), so it would be a major disappointment if HB couldn't achieve 1080p at 60fps.

Exactly my thoughts! I'm pretty sure PS4 & Xbox One could both manage 1080p 60fps for this game.

[jcauthen04]

Exactly my thoughts! I'm pretty sure PS4 & Xbox One could both manage 1080p 60fps for this game.

I'm thinking they could manage 1080p @ 60fps, but what concerns me is that it *might* be at the expense of some graphic detail.  We might get a game that displays at 1080p on the PS4 and XB1, but *possibly* looks a little more graphically barren than the PC version at 1080p, on "High" graphics detail.  I'm not saying this is what's happening, but it's something to consider.

[JOE golfer G]

Ok im going to say this and i might sound like a Sony fanboy but....... PS4 could easily achieve this but i couldn't tell you if the Xbox One could going off what iv'e seen so far??? I'm just talking console performance not including PC as its a different category.

[jcauthen04]

Ok im going to say this and i might sound like a Sony fanboy but....... PS4 could easily achieve this but i couldn't tell you if the Xbox One could going off what iv'e seen so far??? I'm just talking console performance not including PC as its a different category.

I won't dispute that the PS4 has more graphics horsepower than the XB1, based on all that I've read.  I just hope that it can push The Golf Club at 1080p/60 fps, with the same level of graphic detail as the PC at 1080P "High" graphics detail.  I'm leaning heavy toward the PS4, at this point.  I can take some impressive snaphots of TGC at 1080po, high detail on my PC, but that's all they are - snapshots!  It runs at 4 to 5fps on my system with those settings , but it looks fabulous! 

[DivotMaker]

Ok im going to say this and i might sound like a Sony fanboy but....... PS4 could easily achieve this but i couldn't tell you if the Xbox One could going off what iv'e seen so far??? I'm just talking console performance not including PC as its a different category.

PS4 could "easily achieve this"? Are you a programmer for the PS4? We all know the PS4 is strong and it is more powerful graphically than the Xbox One. That being said, I believe that with time and improved Dev Toolkits that the One will be able to compete with (notice I did not say "meet" nor "exceed") with the PS4. However, I do believe the PC will be the best platform from a graphics standpoint, but those graphics will come at a cost with video cards that often cost more than both consoles. I have seen the same games on both consoles and the larger the screen (60" and above) the better the PS4 looks but not by any sort of substantial margin at comparable resolutions. The smaller the screen, the more parity exists at comparable resolutions. At the end of the day, the differences between the two will be minimal at best IMO.

[jcauthen04]

Just when I think I’m close to making a decision on which of the next-gen consoles to buy, the tides change and I’m pulled in the other direction.  I was ready to buy a PS4, and now I learned that DriveClub has been delayed indefinitely, yet again.  Couple that with the fact that Microsoft is going to offer an Xbox One/Forza 5 bundle, for the same price as the Xbox One!  Forza 5 was going to be a day one purchase for me if I bought an XB1 anyway, so this just effectively cut the price of the XB1 by $60 for me.  OTOH, Fanatec wheel support for the XB1 has been put behind PS4 general controller cross support in priority by Controller Max, and now they won’t speculate on a time frame for Fanatec and Logitech wheel support for the XB1.  I’ll have Forza 5, but playing it with a gamepad will be like playing The Golf Club with right thumbstick swing control (this analogy only works in a few us’ world).

That said, I guess I’m back to being equally torn between the PS4 now.  Until the Golf Club and MLB 2014 The Show come out, I won’t have any reason to own a PS4, but at least now with the XB1 I’d have a thumbstick controlled Forza 5, and a 3-click PowerStar Golf to keep me amused until The Golf Club is released.   It’s so stressful to be making decisions like this; no wonder I’m a nervous wreck. 

[ObsoleteNexus]

Forza 5, but playing it with a gamepad will be like playing The Golf Club with right thumbstick swing control (this analogy only works in a few us’ world).

Haha, you would be doing well then, when I tried using controller on forza 4 after using the fanatec, I was like a drunk 3x over the limit. Would describe it more as " with the right thumbstick, with non-preferred hand, and patch over the right eye".

[jcauthen04]

Haha, you would be doing well then, when I tried using controller on forza 4 after using the fanatec, I was like a drunk 3x over the limit. Would describe it more as " with the right thumbstick, with non-preferred hand, and patch over the right eye".

Blech!.. sadly, I can see where that would be the case with Forza 5 and my feeble thumbstick steering capabilities.  Really though, that is useful information and I appreciate it!

[Seamount4Life]

Just when I think I’m close to making a decision on which of the next-gen consoles to buy, the tides change and I’m pulled in the other direction.  I was ready to buy a PS4, and now I learned that DriveClub has been delayed indefinitely, yet again.  Couple that with the fact that Microsoft is going to offer an Xbox One/Forza 5 bundle, for the same price as the Xbox One!  Forza 5 was going to be a day one purchase for me if I bought an XB1 anyway, so this just effectively cut the price of the XB1 by $60 for me.  OTOH, Fanatec wheel support for the XB1 has been put behind PS4 general controller cross support in priority by Controller Max, and now they won’t speculate on a time frame for Fanatec and Logitech wheel support for the XB1.  I’ll have Forza 5, but playing it with a gamepad will be like playing The Golf Club with right thumbstick swing control (this analogy only works in a few us’ world).

That said, I guess I’m back to being equally torn between the PS4 now.  Until the Golf Club and MLB 2014 The Show come out, I won’t have any reason to own a PS4, but at least now with the XB1 I’d have a thumbstick controlled Forza 5, and a 3-click PowerStar Golf to keep me amused until The Golf Club is released.   It’s so stressful to be making decisions like this; no wonder I’m a nervous wreck. 

Drive Club was not delayed again in fact it was never given a second release date to be delayed from. The article was about why it was delayed at launch but the way it was written made it sound like it was ANOTHER delay. It will come in Q2-Q3 of 2014. I am guessing in the summertime.

As for the people saying the XBONE will get better over time with better tools, yes you are right but the PS4 will do the same and there will never be a time where a multiplatform game performs better on Xbone. Xbone games will live in the 720 @ 60FPS or 900,1080@30FPS all gen. Just get used to it. New tools will not magically make your hardware better or fix your ESRAM bottleneck. Xbone was designed to be a media machine(which it does well) not a games machine. There is nothing wrong with owning one and games will still be just as fun on it. But don't kid yourself, PS4 has the better hardware and will run games better all gen.

My guess is they will be able to do 1080p @ 60fps on PS4 but Xbone will be 720p @ 60 or 1080p @ 30.

Like J said, I really hope they focus on 1080p @ 60fps and dial down the detail a bit to get there (if they have to)

This article is very encouraging however!!! Love it!