Whistling Straits...... Updated pics #1 "Outward Bound"

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Ariel Atom

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« Reply #30 on: December 29, 2014, 05:03:56 PM »
Only problem is I'm neither good enough nor long enough to play it from back there. I prefer 6500-7000 for course length :P Should be a major headache to play in TGC too.

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« Reply #31 on: December 29, 2014, 06:36:49 PM »
I played #7 from the back tees on the simulator today. ( along with the rest of the holes I have completed). Not too bad from back there since it plays downhill a bit, I hit 5 wood. The greens are going to play awesome, you pay for playing safe.
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« Reply #32 on: December 30, 2014, 06:38:36 PM »
Added pics of # 8 Tee shot "On the rocks" and  Pic of the first of two miles of coastline holes almost completed.
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« Reply #33 on: December 31, 2014, 11:28:30 AM »
The newly added pic looks Stunning.

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« Reply #34 on: December 31, 2014, 12:16:56 PM »
Looks amazing!  Please backup your work to the cloud or USB!!

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« Reply #35 on: January 01, 2015, 07:20:06 AM »
Good advice Doyley, lost 3 hours of work the other day due to a PC Crash. Been saving frequently now and creating a copy on my desktop daily .
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« Reply #36 on: January 01, 2015, 03:56:55 PM »
Added Pics of the almost finished # 8 , 495 yard par 4  "On The Rocks". Still need to contour fairway and green.
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« Reply #37 on: January 02, 2015, 08:50:42 PM »
Wow, simply stunning...I don't think there are enough bunkers though... 8)

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« Reply #39 on: January 02, 2015, 10:27:24 PM »
Simply Amazing...

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« Reply #40 on: January 03, 2015, 09:34:53 AM »
take sure there is a rake in every bunker!

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« Reply #41 on: January 03, 2015, 10:34:34 AM »
Not sure what the rules are at Whistling now.  Aren't all bunkers now considered through the green? Does this mean they don't need raking?
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« Reply #42 on: January 03, 2015, 04:05:44 PM »
I believe some of the green side bunkers are maintained, that's it. Here is the info from the website.

Bunkers: The sand bunkers constructed for the course are composed of sand native to the area. Not all of the sand was original to the Whistling Straits property; additional sand from a site located 10 miles from the course was brought in to complete construction. In building The Straits, 7,000 truckloads of sand - approximately 105,000 cubic yards - were brought to the site. Maintenance of the bunkers is intended to be natural by the elements, primarily the wind; staff maintenance is minimal.

Distinguishing Features: The Straits®
• Two miles of uninterrupted shoreline on Lake Michigan
• Eight holes hug the Lake Michigan shoreline
• View of Lake Michigan’s endless vista of water from all 18 holes
• Four stone bridges at holes 1, 9, 10 and 18
• Bluffs and massive sand dune areas
• Natural fescue fairways (rather than the traditional Bentgrass)
• Elevation change on the course (hole 15) is approximately 80 feet
• The Straits is a walking course only; walking distance for 18 holes on The Straits is approximately 5 miles
• Caddies required (prior to twilight)

Grasses: The Straits
• Greens are a Bentgrass cultivar (named Providence)
• Tees are a Bentgrass cultivar (named Penncross)
• Fairways are a blend of three fescue cultivars
• Primary rough is the same fescue blend as fairways, but maintained at a higher cut
• Deep rough is a blend of four fescues
• The mounds and berms are largely left uncut

Average size of the greens: 7,500 square feet
Average tee size: 6,000 square feet
Acres of fairway: 22
Acres of rough: 150
Sand bunkers: More than 950 bunkers
Water hazards: 14

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« Reply #43 on: January 03, 2015, 04:30:28 PM »
Thanks for the info.

I'd often wondered about Whistling Straits.  Bunkers are pretty expensive to maintain, both in terms of sand and manpower.  If a course has any more than around 50 bunkers then it can really make things tough for greenkeepers.  There's simply no way that WS could maintain their bunkers to any kind of level.
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The Hathaway Par 3 Course, Stratford-Upon-Avon Hotel & Resort
The Shakespeare, Stratford-Upon-Avon Hotel & Resort
Loch Lorne Golf Club
Isla Madeleine Resort
Vale Do Morgado
Ascona National
Hitchens Valley Hotel and Golf Club
Nazca Valley Golf Club
Sevenlakes On The Vale

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« Reply #44 on: January 04, 2015, 12:53:58 AM »

Distinguishing Features: The Straits®

• Natural fescue fairways (rather than the traditional Bentgrass)


This could explain why they expect a distance of nearly 7800 yards to be playable (for the pros). Whistling Straits can get awfully windy, though. I know Erin Hills also uses fescue fairways, and apparently they provide a lot more roll than "traditional" U.S. grasses do.

Speaking of that, Erin Hills could be another good course to recreate :D

 

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