-Redwood- : New Strategy on Course Building (updated 1-6-15)

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tastegw

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« on: January 02, 2015, 06:07:59 AM »
Over time it felt like I was doing the same things over and over, using the same fairway brushes in just a recyclable manner to get different results. ...but they just looked very similar to each other to me.

(note: I don't claim to be the first to do this)

Did not matter what theme, course type or any of the other mumbo jumbo.  I thought hard on how to improve and get on a different track.  Last night an idea popped up, so I ran with it. 

The idea was simple,  get to point "B" by starting at point "C", instead of starting at point "A".

Here is how it works,  I laid down giant pieces of fairway nearly completely covering the land mass you start with,  and instead of laying down fairway for each hole, I would chip away at the fairway already existing, thus finally giving me some very different looks that I was unable to get via fairway brush. 

At first,  I was skeptical, just like any rational person should be about a much different approach at first.  Then I realized, this was working, and working well.

Here are some overview screens to highlight the progress,  I didn't think to caption a screen until after hole 4 simply because I wasn't sure if it was gonna work.

















1-3-14 update:







I will keep the progress images coming until completed in this post.

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part of the process in sculpting the fairway, lowering the existing fairway with red brush to below water level.

then i take the blue brush and raise it back up and fairway is deleted showing bare rough.

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-Post # 2 will be some up close screens-
« Last Edit: January 06, 2015, 09:09:45 AM by tastegw »

tastegw

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« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2015, 06:08:08 AM »
reserved for close up screens:

















this course is turning out to be nothing like any of my previous courses.

update 1-3-14:




this image is hole 12, only reason I am revealing the hole number is to compare with the last image in the first posting, showing the end results.

update 1-4-14:

Just one more hole shaped and completed out today, not much time to work with, 3 more to do!





will update with more here as i get them in.
« Last Edit: January 04, 2015, 06:04:29 PM by tastegw »

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« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2015, 06:53:24 AM »
A designer knows that he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing to add but when there is nothing to take away - Antoine de Saint Exuprey

An interesting approach.  The pics look superb so far.
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« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2015, 08:25:22 AM »
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and instead of laying down fairway for each hole, I would chip away at the fairway already existing,

Not sure what chipping away at a fairway means. Do you mean deleting a patch then re-laying it with a different/smaller/larger shape ?
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« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2015, 08:58:32 AM »
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and instead of laying down fairway for each hole, I would chip away at the fairway already existing,

Not sure what chipping away at a fairway means. Do you mean deleting a patch then re-laying it with a different/smaller/larger shape ?

no,  just deleting it with the red brush

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« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2015, 09:48:51 AM »
i still don't get how you delete with the red brush.

tastegw

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« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2015, 09:52:41 AM »
i still don't get how you delete with the red brush.

below water level my friend, below water level.

tastegw

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« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2015, 09:49:30 AM »
updated OP with some aerial shots and an explanation on how the process works (bottom of the first post)

also updated 2nd post with 2 new up close photos.

all 18 holes now have shapes to them, and the routing is complete.  now i have to detail holes 13 thru 16 with bunkers, greens, tee boxes and the rest of the major stuff like landscaping and sculpting.  once that is completed, the "light" version of the course should be ready to go after some final play testing.

once the "light" version is completed, I will then go back in and add some of the usual details via planting,  but staying away from objects that harm frame rates as best I can.  (minimal vehicles, animals, and mass overlapped scrubs) I think i will take the "sprinkle" approach, a flower here, some herb there, hide behind the shed for a while, a flower there.
« Last Edit: January 03, 2015, 10:06:36 AM by tastegw »

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« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2015, 10:22:41 AM »
You have to be the quickest designer out there.  Looking mint.
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« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2015, 06:06:39 PM »
You have to be the quickest designer out there.  Looking mint.

Hah!  thanks man,  what some of us can do in little time takes others much time :D

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added new images to 2nd post, one more hole in the books, a short par 4.

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« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2015, 09:13:51 PM »
Got to grips with the red brushes and can now "tweak" fairway shapes pretty finely. This is also a good procedure to use in the "conventional" way of creating holes so many thanks for the information.
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« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2015, 09:13:25 AM »
small update:








getting really close to completion with the 18 holes,  only have 1 hole left,  here is the layout of this hole:




once that is done,  i need to go back to the 18th green area, redo that,  hit all the tee boxes and make sure they are correct,  play test it and hit the publish button for the "light" version of this course,  then i go back in and add some details and release a "HD" version.    I am thinking of having 4 different pins up and running, two of the holes have separate greens to choose from, offering completely different approach shots to each.

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« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2015, 09:31:27 AM »
bunkers look amazing

this course has...... the taste!

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« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2015, 04:54:17 PM »
Uh-Oh.

Tried the red brush tweaking further along the same course but it didn't work. Just gave me a hole like the Grand canyon  :'(
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« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2015, 06:43:28 PM »
I was always wondering how you get that thick layer of rough around your fairway bunkers. I guess that's how you do it, the red brush/blue brush method? Will have to give it a go!

 

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